I had the opportunity to spend about an hour and a half with Chuck Smith before he passed away on Thursday.One of our major topics of our discussion was the lack of liberty that is allowed by the liberal mindset.I was telling Chuck about a dialogue that I had entered into with an ACLU attorney from the state of Washington.I was asked by this attorney what I thought the State was in relation to the philosophical idea of separation of church and state. I answered her by saying, “We the people.”What I went on to discuss with her and relay to Chuck was, we, even the conservative and religious minded, all are included in “We the people”.The state, as a governmental organization, answers to the people. Christians as well as secularists are a part of this state.